Quote: algernonpj wrote in post #46

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Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #40

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Quote: algernonpj wrote in post #37

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Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #25

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Something to keep in mind is that Super PAC's are a great way for politicians to play dirty tricks while keeping their hands clean

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Algernon, you're implying that Cruz may have been responsible for the ad and committed an illegal act. Is that really what you're saying? You seem to be saying you're not, but then you repeat it.

Oh, and while we're talking about people condemning bad acts, what about that tweet comparing Melania to Heidi Cruz and making fun of Cruz? Oh, wait, Trump himself did that one. Makes it hard for him to condemn it.

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One thing at a time:
o1. I'm stating that the fact that Cruz " may have been responsible for the ad and committed an illegal act" is a possibility that ought to be considered when evaluating what happened in the 'nude Melania pic affair'..
Cruz's duplicitous behaviour regarding TPA indicates he certainly is not above underhanded politics. [links available upon request.]
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That's a real problem. You have no evidence, only the fact that you don't like the guy because he's running against your guy, and you accuse him of illegal and unethical behavior based on nothing and with evidence to the contrary that you refuse to factor in. That is a problem.

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Lets start with clarifying what we are posting about.

Evidence of what?

My guess is that you assume that I am accusing Cruz of using a superPac to attack Melania.

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Yes, and in fact I asked you if that was what you were doing.

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Based upon this assumption I did not accuse Cruz of that BUT I stated this ought to be CONSIDERED. SuperPAC's are a useful tool used by politicians to keep their hand clean.

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That statement in this context is an accusation.

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'evidence to the contrary ... To the contrary of what Cruz's connections to the ad ?? If this is what you are referring to, the only thing I have seen is Cruz's word which may or may not be true. There's no way to prove one or the other. Politicians have been known to lie.

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The evidence that Liz Mair is not a Cruz supporter and was out to get Trump. The fact that Cruz has a long-established reputation as an honest man, and that you have no evidence to the contrary. The fact that there is absolutely nothing tying Cruz to this anti-Trump PAC. If you do have any evidence, please call the FEC immediately and report him.

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Disavowing the ad would have definitely added more credibility to Cruz's denial

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Why do you insist that he disavow something he had nothing to do with? It's like me asking you or me to disavow dispossessing "Native Americans". We didn't do it; didn't even know about it when it was happening, but we probably did benefit from it to some extent.

Quote: algernonpj wrote in post #48

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[quote=truthkeeper|p32409]...

Andrea McWilliam is a Texas lobbyist and government affairs consultant.
http://www.mcwilliamstexas.com/11/Andrea-McWilliams

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Twitter is on fire and looks to me like the ad did come from the Cruz camp, specifically Jeff Roe, who is the campaign manager. Don't know how accurate the GQ angle is, but it is fact Roe is a sleazeball. It would not have been out of character for him to have done this, and facts are that Cruz hired Roe and has not fired him. End of story. As Truman used to say, "The buck stops here." And Cruz has not once disavowed that ad. .

"And Cruz has not once disavowed that ad."

I find that very problematic and I like Ted.

TM, what is scary about a drone delivering a package to a residential area? Unusual perhaps, but not scary.

(Yes, TM, I am joking by playing with your wording)

Quote: algernonpj wrote in post #50

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Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #49

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Quote: algernonpj wrote in post #48

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[quote=truthkeeper|p32409]...

Andrea McWilliam is a Texas lobbyist and government affairs consultant.
http://www.mcwilliamstexas.com/11/Andrea-McWilliams

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For Paul Ryan!

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Thanks.

Combined with TK's post above, it makes sense now and gives the ad a tie to Cruz or at least his campaign. Ryan is Cruz's bud in sneaking through TPA

Addition: This how tenuous links are created in politics. I remember reading how Bill Clinton kept his hand clean. He would mention something along the lines "wouldn't be nice if 'xyz' occurred in from of the person who could do xyz and if caught would be willing to take one for the team.

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #51

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Twitter is on fire and looks to me like the ad did come from the Cruz camp, specifically Jeff Roe, who is the campaign manager. Don't know how accurate the GQ angle is, but it is fact Roe is a sleazeball. It would not have been out of character for him to have done this, and facts are that Cruz hired Roe and has not fired him. End of story. As Truman used to say, "The buck stops here." And Cruz has not once disavowed that ad. .

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Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #56

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #51

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Twitter is on fire and looks to me like the ad did come from the Cruz camp, specifically Jeff Roe, who is the campaign manager. Don't know how accurate the GQ angle is, but it is fact Roe is a sleazeball. It would not have been out of character for him to have done this, and facts are that Cruz hired Roe and has not fired him. End of story. As Truman used to say, "The buck stops here." And Cruz has not once disavowed that ad. .

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He hasn't disavowed it because he had nothing to do with it. Did that possibility occur to you?

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #59

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Well it's apparently flown over your head that what the people YOU HIRE do on your campaign YOU are responsible for.

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