Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #4

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She probably read this article :

http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh263.htm

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Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #16

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #4

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She probably read this article :

http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh263.htm

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What an incredible hit piece!

Lemme see, Ted's college roommate says he didn't like him...heck, the whole thing is a series of lies. This is the kind of crap we're going to judge our fellow man on?

Wow.

(I started to refute the lies, one by one, but it was the whole article. Who writes this crap?)

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Zitat

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Ted wasn't so slick in college, where his roommate, Craig Mazin, now a successful screenwriter, tells what people thought of Ted back then. Mazin called Ted a creepy, greasy 18 year old. Obviously, between then and now, Ted Cruz has polished his act.

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Seriously, Conservgramma, you are going to rely on the word of a Hollywood script writer who recalls such unpleasant memories of Cruz 28 YEARS AGO? I am not saying he's lying because I don't know, but two things I do know: I am not the person I was at 17, are you?; Is there any possibility Mazin has an unstated political agenda in attacking Cruz?

This purported part of Cruz's past according to Mazin must be viewed with skepticism.

Quote: Cincinnatus wrote in post #19

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Zitat

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Ted wasn't so slick in college, where his roommate, Craig Mazin, now a successful screenwriter, tells what people thought of Ted back then. Mazin called Ted a creepy, greasy 18 year old. Obviously, between then and now, Ted Cruz has polished his act.

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Seriously, Conservgramma, you are going to rely on the word of a Hollywood script writer who recalls such unpleasant memories of Cruz 28 YEARS AGO? I am not saying he's lying because I don't know, but two things I do know: I am not the person I was at 17, are you?; Is there any possibility Mazin has an unstated political agenda in attacking Cruz?

This purported part of Cruz's past according to Mazin must be viewed with skepticism.

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Honestly I could care less about some roommates opinion years ago. That was not the reason for posting that article. It was the sourced links to all the less than conservative stuff Cruz has had his hands in is why I posted it.

Of particular importance as to why I posted it is because of the Cruz family connections to the New Apostolic Reformation and Seven Mountains nuttery that people need to know about.

The fact that 2 Cruz supporters would jump on the roommate beginning and ignore the rest I find highly disturbing.

Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #10

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However the beauty of Trump is his skeletons are already out there. Cruz's are just now creaking out of the closet.

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We shall see Frank. Time will tell.

In the meantime Cruz is now faced with no less than 5 lawsuits in as many states and he's in some serious legal trouble no matter how much his campaign is desperately trying to downplay it.

As far as Dole is concerned, not rocket science.

Plenty of establishment types see the writing on the wall. I don't think Dole "endorsed" Trump, but he perceives him as the presumptive winner.

Most people want to back the winner rather than the loser. Especially so with politicians, where it is in their best interests to cozy up to power.

But I predict Rove and Sununu will go down with the ship.

Quote: truthkeeper wrote in post #25

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As far as Dole is concerned, not rocket science.

Plenty of establishment types see the writing on the wall. I don't think Dole "endorsed" Trump, but he perceives him as the presumptive winner.

Most people want to back the winner rather than the loser. Especially so with politicians, where it is in their best interests to cozy up to power.

But I predict Rove and Sununu will go down with the ship.

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #18

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Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #16

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #4

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She probably read this article :

http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh263.htm

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What an incredible hit piece!

Lemme see, Ted's college roommate says he didn't like him...heck, the whole thing is a series of lies. This is the kind of crap we're going to judge our fellow man on?

Wow.

(I started to refute the lies, one by one, but it was the whole article. Who writes this crap?)

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How do you know? You would have to personally know these roommates to know they are lying. In the meantime you are slandering these roommates accusing them of lying. What evidence do you have? Right now it's just he said she said. So I have to assume here that you do know these guys personally and can prove they are lying so please post what the evidence is.

Cruz has been dishing a fair amount of crap himself, its an election, I assume he's man enough to take it.

In the meantime please do refute the lies one by one providing links and evidence. Not canned responses from Tedcruz.org - but actual facts.

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Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #28

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #18

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Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #16

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #4

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She probably read this article :

http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh263.htm

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What an incredible hit piece!

Lemme see, Ted's college roommate says he didn't like him...heck, the whole thing is a series of lies. This is the kind of crap we're going to judge our fellow man on?

Wow.

(I started to refute the lies, one by one, but it was the whole article. Who writes this crap?)

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How do you know? You would have to personally know these roommates to know they are lying. In the meantime you are slandering these roommates accusing them of lying. What evidence do you have? Right now it's just he said she said. So I have to assume here that you do know these guys personally and can prove they are lying so please post what the evidence is.

Cruz has been dishing a fair amount of crap himself, its an election, I assume he's man enough to take it.

In the meantime please do refute the lies one by one providing links and evidence. Not canned responses from Tedcruz.org - but actual facts.

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As I indicated, I wasn't talking about the irrelevant comments by the supposed roommates. The whole rest of the thing was despicable and untrue.

I'm not going to do your homework for you, Gramma. If you choose to believe an obscure and, well, bizarre, website, go for it. I find it unbecoming and I don't understand why you would be predisposed to believe something like that, but that's really none of my business. Just make sure you're not spreading false witness.

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I will concede that article was perhaps not the best one to warn about the New Apostolic Reformation, I chose that one due to the videos at the bottom.

If you are unfamiliar with this movement the Cruz's are heavily involved in this one from the Apologetics Index is perhaps better:

New Apostolic Reformation Apologetics Index

False witness is to be avoided at all costs, absolutely. It is only false witness if you are knowingly deceiving people. If you believe something to be a lie and warn others accordingly, that is called discernment.