#1 Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by ThirstyMan 07.11.2014 00:28

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Yes, the 2016 race for the White House has already gotten started -- and it looks like Dr. Ben Carson is first in the ring.

Carson, a famous pediatric neurosurgeon and conservative political star, will air a nearly 40 minute-long ad introducing himself to the American people this weekend, an aide to Carson confirms to ABC News.

The documentary titled “A Breath of Fresh Air: A New Prescription for America” will air in 22 states and Washington, DC. The paid video will detail some of his biography and family life, including his rise from being born to a single mother with a poor childhood in Detroit to director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins for almost 40 years, known for his work separating conjoined twins, to potential 2016 presidential candidate.
Carson first became a conservative star when last year he created a buzz at the National Prayer Breakfast when in front of an audience that included President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden spoke out about political correctness, health care and taxes.

He also called for a private health care savings plan and a flat tax in a speech that went viral and led to an editorial in the Wall Street Journal titled Ben Carson for President. He is known as a fierce opponent of the president’s health care law known as Obamacare.

In an ABC News/Washington Post poll from last month of the potential 2016 presidential candidates showed Carson in seventh place garnering seven percent of the vote after other notables including Jeb Bush, Mike Huckabee, Chris Christie, and Marco Rubio.

Carson has a grassroots effort to draft him for a 2016 presidential run that has raised millions for the effort. In an interview last month with Jorge Ramos on our sister network, Fusion he said he’s considering a White House run.

“No, I don’t want to be president. Why would any sane person want to do that?” Carson said, acknowledging he has noticed the support. “I think I have to consider that, with so many clamoring for me to do it.”

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/meet-ben-...0#disqus_thread

#2 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by ThirstyMan 07.11.2014 00:30

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"...known for his work separating conjoined twins"

Could you ask for a better background for entering this political fray?

#3 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by Frank Cannon 07.11.2014 00:31

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I like the good Dr, BUT I am very leery about supporting someone with absolutely ZERO political/management experience. We just had 6 years of a guy without any management skills and look at what the hell happened.

#4 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by ThirstyMan 07.11.2014 01:21

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Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #3
I like the good Dr, BUT I am very leery about supporting someone with absolutely ZERO political/management experience. We just had 6 years of a guy without any management skills and look at what the hell happened.


Same here. But Zero was a closed book. We did not know what we were getting and the complicity of the press lingers even today.

check this out:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/07/opinio...mmigration.html

#5 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by Frank Cannon 07.11.2014 01:25

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Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #4

check this out:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/07/opinio...mmigration.html


If Zero takes the NYTimes advice, he will have Rats defecting from the party. This is such an unpopular idea with such large amount of Americans elected Rats will have no other choice if they want to survive reelection in 2 or 4 years.

#6 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by ThirstyMan 07.11.2014 01:28

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Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #5
Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #4

check this out:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/07/opinio...mmigration.html


If Zero takes the NYTimes advice, he will have Rats defecting from the party. This is such an unpopular idea with such large amount of Americans elected Rats will have no other choice if they want to survive reelection in 2 or 4 years.


The stage is set for the lawless among us to come out of the wood work... If O does this we will be witnessing the death of the rule of law.

"Now the election is over, and the only thing to say to the president is: Do it. Take executive action. Make it big."

What is this advice? "Sin Boldly"?

It's hard to imagine the NYT wrote that. WTF???

#7 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by truthkeeper 07.11.2014 11:34

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I like Dr. Carson very much, but I REALLY like Allen West.

I can dream.

#8 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by algernonpj 08.11.2014 09:45

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Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #6
Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #5
Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #4

check this out:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/07/opinio...mmigration.html


If Zero takes the NYTimes advice, he will have Rats defecting from the party. This is such an unpopular idea with such large amount of Americans elected Rats will have no other choice if they want to survive reelection in 2 or 4 years.


The stage is set for the lawless among us to come out of the wood work... If O does this we will be witnessing the death of the rule of law.

"Now the election is over, and the only thing to say to the president is: Do it. Take executive action. Make it big."

What is this advice? "Sin Boldly"?

It's hard to imagine the NYT wrote that. WTF???

Reminds me of the old saying "may as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb", except they won't be hung.

#9 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by Sanguine 10.11.2014 10:41

Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #3
I like the good Dr, BUT I am very leery about supporting someone with absolutely ZERO political/management experience. We just had 6 years of a guy without any management skills and look at what the hell happened.


Yes, but the main problem with 0, IMHO, is that he is a leftist and not an American in attitude and doesn't understand or like America. And, Ben Carson has much more real life experience that the big 0.

#10 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by ThirstyMan 11.11.2014 09:50

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Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #9
Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #3
I like the good Dr, BUT I am very leery about supporting someone with absolutely ZERO political/management experience. We just had 6 years of a guy without any management skills and look at what the hell happened.


Yes, but the main problem with 0, IMHO, is that he is a leftist and not an American in attitude and doesn't understand or like America. And, Ben Carson has much more real life experience that the big 0.


@Frank Cannon aka The Big Kahuna

Watch me take the middle on this one....

I agree with Frank that this could be a concern and with Sanguine that we're working with two distinctly different animals here.

Here's my reply...
Frank, it's not like Dr. Carson just fell off the turnip truck. He's retired from a very responsible position at Johns Hopkins, Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery. In other words this guy was an accomplished brain surgeon with leadership skills as Dept. Head in the secular world of employment. NOTYHING in O's life compares to this track record. Dr. Carson's most notable operation was the separation of Siamese twins joined at the back of the head. Also his ego is NOT like O's. If Dr. Carson felt his usefulness to the Country was up as President, he'd resign. Not O, he loves the perks and the accolades. [he feels deserving which makes us nauseated]

#11 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by Frank Cannon 11.11.2014 10:26

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Zitat
If Dr. Carson felt his usefulness to the Country was up as President...



We don't know that. He is too blank slate for me. I also want someone who has a proven record of keeping the trains running on time. Scott Walker has that record. He is running a state successfully. Where does managing a dept in a hospital compare to managing a massive, unwieldy govt? We don't have time for on the job training when we have a solid bench of people who already know how a govt works....or doesn't work.

#12 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by Sanguine 11.11.2014 13:20

I don't want someone who "knows how government works" necessarily. My criteria would be more along the lines of "knowing how life works" and where the limits to the government should be.

#13 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by Frank Cannon 11.11.2014 13:52

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Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #12
I don't want someone who "knows how government works" necessarily. My criteria would be more along the lines of "knowing how life works" and where the limits to the government should be.


Knowing how life works? What is this, Dr Phil? Running the country has nothing to do with that. It has to do with knowing how to get the limits on govt' reinstated. What good is all of Carsons current intentions (yes intentions because as far as I am concerned, he is a blank slate) if he doesn't know how to implement them. You need to look no further than Reagan to see how important knowing how the levers of govt' work are to implement your agenda. Reagan knew who to go to, who to hire for certain jobs, how to legally work around obstacles because he cut his teeth as a Gov. He bushed bills fully through to a law.

Do you hope that Carson just rolls in there and starts signing EO after EO to get this mess straightened out? As far as I am concerned, all this Carson chatter is the Rights version of empty vessel hopes of "the one we have been waiting for". Totally unnecessary when our bench is so deep full of Cruz, Walker, Jindal and Perry's who have proven records and can start the job on day one.

#14 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by ThirstyMan 11.11.2014 15:24

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Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #13
Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #12
I don't want someone who "knows how government works" necessarily. My criteria would be more along the lines of "knowing how life works" and where the limits to the government should be.


Knowing how life works? What is this, Dr Phil? Running the country has nothing to do with that. It has to do with knowing how to get the limits on govt' reinstated. What good is all of Carsons current intentions (yes intentions because as far as I am concerned, he is a blank slate) if he doesn't know how to implement them. You need to look no further than Reagan to see how important knowing how the levers of govt' work are to implement your agenda. Reagan knew who to go to, who to hire for certain jobs, how to legally work around obstacles because he cut his teeth as a Gov. He bushed bills fully through to a law.

Do you hope that Carson just rolls in there and starts signing EO after EO to get this mess straightened out? As far as I am concerned, all this Carson chatter is the Rights version of empty vessel hopes of "the one we have been waiting for". Totally unnecessary when our bench is so deep full of Cruz, Walker, Jindal and Perry's who have proven records and can start the job on day one.




OK, would it be better if Dr. Ben had some experience with the wheels of government before we handed him the reigns of the US government?

That's a pretty sound point. Right now he's a little like Hillary was before she had to enter the fray. Once she did people could see she was not invincible.

But for now, I'll reserve my final judgment until he answers some questions and enters into the gauntlet. His wisdom is infectious though and at this stage, I'm rooting for him.

Last election I started out a Cain fan, and then after the lady showed up moved over to be a Gingrich fan and then finally became a reluctant Romney fan.

#15 RE: Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring by Sanguine 11.11.2014 17:42

Dr. Phil? No, and that's just silly.

A good manager is a good manager. Just as Romney probably is. If Carson or whomever gets the nomination knows how to manage and how to select the right people and delegate, he or she should do fine.

I'm more worried about ideology, character and sanity, after 6 long years of the big 0.

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