#1 'It's almost as if they wanted us to fight each other' - ACLU, reporters point fingers at police, McAuliffe for street warfare in Charlottesville by algernonpj 17.08.2017 17:47

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'It's almost as if they wanted us to fight each other'
ACLU, reporters point fingers at police, McAuliffe for street warfare in Charlottesville

Published: 5 hours ago
Liam Clancy

WASHINGTON – In the wake of the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, which left one dead and at least 38 injured, many members of the national media were quick to blame the “Unite the Right” rally attendees for the outbreak of street warfare between “alt-right” and “alt-left” protesters.

But according to the ACLU and reporters covering the rally, the violence escalated due to what many believe was an intentional lack of police oversight, with the blame aimed squarely at Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe.

“The police actually allowed us to square off against each other,” one counter-protester told CNN. “There were fights and the police were standing a block away the entire time. It’s almost as if they wanted us to fight each other.”

The ACLU also contends the “passive” police presence may have been intentional to allow authorities to declare an “unlawful assembly” and justify shutting down the rally.

“We asked the city to adhere to the U.S. Constitution and ensure people’s safety at the protest. It failed to do so. In our system, the city makes the rules and the courts enforce them,” the ACLU of Virginia’s Executive Director Claire Gastanaga said in a statement. “It is the responsibility of law enforcement to ensure safety of both protesters and counter-protesters. The policing on Saturday was not effective in preventing violence.”

McAuliffe authorized a state of emergency that was used to prevent “Unite the Right” attendees from congregating in protest of a plan to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from a city park. The order went into effect before the rally was scheduled to begin and long before James Fields, 20, plowed into counter-protesters, killing one and injuring 19.

While the “Unite the Right” event had a permit, the counter-protesters did not. However, police shut down the permitted event, forcing white nationalist groups into the Antifa group.

Reporters for the Daily Caller were “in the heart of the action” and described seeing “individual protesters throw themselves against the white supremacist shield line.”

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http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/police-stand-...harlottesville/

#2 RE: 'It's almost as if they wanted us to fight each other' - ACLU, reporters point fingers at police, McAuliffe for street warfare in Charlottesville by PzLdr 17.08.2017 23:28

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I'm thinking it's time for us to exercise a little "White Privilege" and start kicking ass - wherever and whenever...

#3 RE: 'It's almost as if they wanted us to fight each other' - ACLU, reporters point fingers at police, McAuliffe for street warfare in Charlottesville by truthkeeper 18.08.2017 13:44

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The Left is just itching for their revolution and are pulling out all the stops.

Meanwhile Trump has gained all of the South, Flyover Country, the Rust Belt, the Military, the Police, the Deplorables, and all the Bitter Clingers, who are armed.

I say bring it on already.

#4 RE: 'It's almost as if they wanted us to fight each other' - ACLU, reporters point fingers at police, McAuliffe for street warfare in Charlottesville by algernonpj 18.08.2017 14:04

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You know when the ACLU points a finger at the police, not the 'white supremicists', there's an excellent chance that the police and who ever oversees them (police chief, mayor, governor, ...) are at fault.

#5 RE: 'It's almost as if they wanted us to fight each other' - ACLU, reporters point fingers at police, McAuliffe for street warfare in Charlottesville by ThirstyMan 18.08.2017 21:34

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Thanks algernon! This is a VERY significant report.

A common theme in the rioting episodes of late is the relinquishing of power of those who are being given space to destroy by the absence of any law and order.

When the mob is allowed to over rule the laws the people start to fear they're living in lawless times.

#6 RE: 'It's almost as if they wanted us to fight each other' - ACLU, reporters point fingers at police, McAuliffe for street warfare in Charlottesville by ThirstyMan 19.08.2017 23:13

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I don't think this has been posted yet, anyway here's the official statement from the ACLU of Virginia:

ACLU of Virginia Response to Governor’s Allegations that ACLU is Responsible for Violence in Charlottesville
Posted: 2:57pm, August 14, 2017

On National Public Radio’s Morning Edition today, Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe blamed the ACLU for the violence that took place on Saturday in Charlottesville.

“The City of Charlottesville asked for that to be moved out of downtown Charlottesville to a park about a mile and a half away to a park with a lot of open fields. That was the place where it should have been,” McAuliffe said. “We were unfortunately sued by the ACLU. The judge ruled against us. That rally should not have been in the middle of downtown.”

The ACLU of Virginia’s Executive Director Claire G. Gastanaga had the following response:

“We are horrified by the violence that took place in Charlottesville on Saturday and the tragic loss of life that resulted from it. The ACLU of Virginia does not support violence. We do not support Nazis. We support the Constitution and laws of the United States. We would be eager to work with the governor and the attorney general on efforts to ensure that public officials understand their rights and obligations under the law.

“But let’s be clear: our lawsuit challenging the city to act constitutionally did not cause violence nor did it in any way address the question whether demonstrators could carry sticks or other weapons at the events.

“We asked the city to adhere to the U.S. Constitution and ensure people’s safety at the protest. It failed to do so. In our system, the city makes the rules and the courts enforce them. Our role is to ensure that the system works the same for everyone.

“In the weeks after the July 8 protests, the city (working with the governor and others) had ample opportunity to put together a case and present it in court on its own motion justifying the revocation of the permit and the imposition of a prior restraint on speech. If the judge in our case had been presented with any credible evidence or testimony by the city of an imminent threat of harm (other than a list of internet entries) or evidence that the change in permit would, in fact, result in no demonstration in downtown Charlottesville, I have confidence that he would have denied the injunction, and the city would have been faced with enforcing the change of venue and protecting demonstrators and counter-demonstrators in two locations.

“Instead, the city’s pleadings said that its decision to revoke the permit was based primarily on the unmanageable numbers of people who would show up. An affidavit from the police chief said that they expected twice as many counter-protesters (2,000) as protesters (1,000). Yet, the city did not revoke the permits for the counter-protesters, too. In light of those facts, the judge couldn’t get beyond the fact that the city hadn’t revoked all permits for demonstrations downtown on Saturday.

“It is the responsibility of law enforcement to ensure safety of both protesters and counter-protesters. The policing on Saturday was not effective in preventing violence. I was there and brought concerns directly to the secretary of public safety and the head of the Virginia State Police about the way that the barricades in the park limiting access by the arriving demonstrators and the lack of any physical separation of the protesters and counter-protesters on the street were contributing to the potential of violence. They did not respond. In fact, law enforcement was standing passively by, seeming to be waiting for violence to take place, so that they would have grounds to declare an emergency, declare an ‘unlawful assembly’ and clear the area.

“Rather than seeking to scapegoat the ACLU of Virginia and the Rutherford Institute for the devastating events on Saturday, it is my firm hope and desire that the governor and other state and local officials will learn from this past weekend how constitutionally to prevent events like the horror we saw in Charlottesville from ever happening again.”

https://acluva.org/20108/aclu-of-virgini...harlottesville/

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