#1 Ex-IRS official Lerner again invokes 5th Amendment, refuses to testify on scandal by Eglman 05.03.2014 10:01

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DEVELOPING ...

Former Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner has once again invoked her Fifth Amendment right not to testify, refusing to answer questions during a hearing Wednesday before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

ORIGINAL STORY ...

A former Internal Revenue Service official who refused to answer questions about the agency's targeting scandal at a hearing last spring has arrived on Capitol Hill for another appearance before a House committee -- but it's unclear whether she will answer questions this time, either.

Lois Lerner headed the IRS division that improperly targeted Tea Party and other conservative groups for extra scrutiny when they applied for tax-exempt status. After publicly disclosing the targeting, Lerner refused to answer questions about it at a congressional hearing, invoking her constitutional right not to incriminate herself.

House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., told "Fox News Sunday" he expected Lerner to testify at Wednesday's hearing. But a committee spokeswoman said she could only confirm that Lerner was expected to attend the hearing.

Lerner resigned from her post as the agency’s director of tax-exempt organizations days after her one-and-only appearance before the committee in which she asserted her Fifth Amendment rights.

Issa and Lerner’s attorneys have argued about whether she is now still protected from having to testify under the Fifth Amendment. Emails obtained by Fox News revealed an attorney for Lerner negotiated over whether she would testify.

Last week, Lerner lawyer William Taylor made public a letter in which he told the committee that Lerner would testify on Capitol Hill only if compelled by a federal court or if given immunity for the testimony.

He was responding to a letter from Issa saying, in part, that Lerner’s testimony remains "critical to the committee’s investigation."

An attorney for Lerner did not respond to a request for comment from The Associated Press.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/...ial-to-show-up/

#2 RE: Ex-IRS official Lerner again invokes 5th Amendment, refuses to testify on scandal by Frank Cannon 05.03.2014 10:22

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Nice job Issa. You looked like a stooge after promising to deliver the goods a whole 4 days ago. The best part of all of this is this ineffectual nit wit Daryle thinks he is running for President in '16. What a laugh.

#3 RE: Ex-IRS official Lerner again invokes 5th Amendment, refuses to testify on scandal by Eglman 05.03.2014 11:53

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IRS Scandal - Fmr IRS Official Lois Lerner Takes The The Fifth Again At House Hearing Update

#4 RE: Ex-IRS official Lerner again invokes 5th Amendment, refuses to testify on scandal by conservgramma 05.03.2014 12:13

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Okay, some of you legal experts help me out here.

Why can't this woman be arrested for contempt? Am I missing something?? Indict her already!

#5 RE: Ex-IRS official Lerner again invokes 5th Amendment, refuses to testify on scandal by Eglman 05.03.2014 12:29

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #4
Okay, some of you legal experts help me out here.

Why can't this woman be arrested for contempt? Am I missing something?? Indict her already!


She can but the Republicans are slow-playing for some unknown reason--Issa said after that he is just considering contempt charges so that tells me he may not be serious

#6 RE: Ex-IRS official Lerner again invokes 5th Amendment, refuses to testify on scandal by conservgramma 05.03.2014 12:32

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Quote: Eglman wrote in post #5
Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #4
Okay, some of you legal experts help me out here.

Why can't this woman be arrested for contempt? Am I missing something?? Indict her already!


She can but the Republicans are slow-playing for some unknown reason--Issa said after that he is just considering contempt charges so that tells me he may not be serious


Thanks, I thought so but wasn't completely sure.

I fear you're right about Issa not being completely serious, sure looks that way since he should have slapped her with contempt immediately. I've given up on anything less than corruption coming out of D.C. It just gets worse by the day.

#7 RE: Ex-IRS official Lerner again invokes 5th Amendment, refuses to testify on scandal by Eglman 05.03.2014 12:36

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This is from Boehner--Boehner says Lerner may be held
in contempt for refusing to testify
on IRS targeting--http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014.../#ixzz2v6mtCgul


The key words are MAY be held in contempt--Boehner and Issa allowing more time for shredding and deleting.

#8 RE: Ex-IRS official Lerner again invokes 5th Amendment, refuses to testify on scandal by Frank Cannon 05.03.2014 12:44

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If these clowns were anywhere near serious, they would give her full immunity and let her spill what she knows. As it stands, the House has no recourse from her pleading the 5th until she is dead.

#9 RE: Ex-IRS official Lerner again invokes 5th Amendment, refuses to testify on scandal by PzLdr 05.03.2014 13:26

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Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #8
If these clowns were anywhere near serious, they would give her full immunity and let her spill what she knows. As it stands, the House has no recourse from her pleading the 5th until she is dead.


Actually, since she started the first installment of Issa's Flying Circus with the statement to the effect that she was innocent of any wrongdoing, etc, she waived her 5th Amendment privilege. It's a shield, not a sword. So they should vote a Contempt citation and let her lawyer try to get her OUT of jail. And while I'd like to get the higher ups, I'd be more than happy top bag this bag for some heavy time. RICO, anyone?

#10 RE: Ex-IRS official Lerner again invokes 5th Amendment, refuses to testify on scandal by Cincinnatus 05.03.2014 13:34

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Took the 5th again and several times? I wonder if Bambi, brilliant Constitutional lawyer that he is, is now starting to suspect there actually is a smidgen of corruption connected with the IRS.

#11 RE: Ex-IRS official Lerner again invokes 5th Amendment, refuses to testify on scandal by Sanguine 05.03.2014 13:48

Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #4
Okay, some of you legal experts help me out here.

Why can't this woman be arrested for contempt? Am I missing something?? Indict her already!


She can, but it's been a long time since that sort of thing was done, and you know the R's are looking forward to elections this fall. I don't think they have the strength to do this properly right now.

#12 RE: Ex-IRS official Lerner again invokes 5th Amendment, refuses to testify on scandal by Frank Cannon 05.03.2014 14:00

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Quote: PzLdr wrote in post #9
So they should vote a Contempt citation and let her lawyer try to get her OUT of jail.



No one is going to jail even if they find her criminally in contempt of congress. Rita Lavelle was the last person jailed over this in 1983 and it was mostly because she left a massive paper trail of setting up fake loans. She also wasn't jailed for lying to congress. It was the lying to the FBI that added time on her sentence. Holder was held in contempt and I don't see him in leg irons.

You are going to have a hard time convincing a jury that someone using their 5th amendment privilege is contempt.

#13 RE: Ex-IRS official Lerner again invokes 5th Amendment, refuses to testify on scandal by Cincinnatus 05.03.2014 21:17

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This is a good idea but it must be handled with care: If these clowns were anywhere near serious, they would give her full immunity and let her spill what she knows.

If she is given immunity without an airtight and completely revelatory proffer she can simply claim she was solely responsible and the buck will stop with her. Since she has immunity, she walks, and no one suffers any penalty (except, of course, the Constitution and the American people).

I thank God Trey is there to monitor things. I do not see him letting any bs slip by.

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